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Eva Young is President of Log Cabin Republicans of Minnesota and lives in Minneapolis with her cat, Kiddleleewink. You can also read her other blog here.

last 5 posts | all posts from April 2005

Christian Grantham Gets GayPatriot on the Record

Exit Stage Right for Gay Patriot

Gay Patriot Covers Gannon

Bleating from the "Gay Patriot"

NY Times on Blogs

Christian Grantham Gets GayPatriot on the Record

March 28, 2005

Here's an update to a story I've been following: why has GayPatriot has quit blogging. Last night GayPatriot emailed me the story Christian Grantham broke here.

Christian posted the complete text of GayPatriot's post:

Wanted for crimes against the gay community. Wanted for repeatedly conducting outing witch hunts against gays who do not believe in radical liberal anti-American ideals. For repeated violations of privacy of gay Americans. For conducting systematic civil liberties attacks on gay Americans.
WANTED! Let's do something about these gay terrorists who have infected our community with their hatred and self-loathing bigotry of gay Americans who wish to live their lives in peace.

I didn't see this post, but understand it included pictures of both John Aravosis and Mike Rogers. The conservatives commenting on this post thought it over the top.

Hmm, c'mon now GayPatriot. You are more than capable of writing convincing arguments against John Aravosis and Michael Rogers. This is eerily familiar to weblistings of abortion doctors.
While "terrorists" could apply in the true definition of the word, it is a bit salacious since most modern people think of terrorists using physical violence. Idiots reading this posting might be tempted into doing something stupid. This has a bad "Law & Order" episode written all over it.

Lets fight arguments with arguments, not namecalling.
Mickey

And, GP, while I appreciate your vigor and fire on the issue, Mickey is right -- this is a little over-the-top. While I'm not uncomfortable with calling them "terrorists", because, in the strictest sense they are, it probably would be better to stick with "hatemongers and bigots".
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I would venture to suggest "terrorist" goes a bit too far, it's kind of the same as when lefties say that sleep deprivation or putting a wet blanket on a terrorist's head is "torture."

Calling them "Extortionists," I wouldn't have any problem with. "Bullying Hypocrites," ditto. Given the way they act toward those who disagree with them, you could make a case for "Fascist Bullies" as well.
V the K

I think a commenter on the Independent Gay Forum says it best:

Calling someone a "terrorist" would probably be a cause for a libel lawsuit; it certainly isn't in the normal realm of the back and forth of vigorous political debate.
GayPatriot went over the top and beyond decency, and it sounds like Rogers did as well (the proper response would be to contact an attorney, not to harass your opponent at his place of employment).

This whole thing is a soap opera and both sides deserve each other.
Mike Silverman

Though I do not believe that calling someone a terrorist is libelous. That is an opinion. However calling Gay Patriot's boss at work was not the action of someone who fears being stalked. Gay Patriot doesn't mention his workplace on his blog - so there's no good reason for bringing his employer into it - except if the motivation is silencing Gay Patriot. It was the action of someone wanting to escalate the situation.

I contacted John Aravosis this weekend, and he told me he did not know about why this happened, though believed the post had something to do with it. I just emailed Rogers at blogactive@blogactive.com to get his side of the story. Rogers claimed in comments to Christian's post on the topic, that Christian had gotten the story wrong.

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filed under: Blogs

Posted by lloydletta at 07:11 PM |

Exit Stage Right for Gay Patriot

March 25, 2005

Gay Patriot Abruptly Quits Blogging

In a post time originally time stamped after 12:00, Gay Patriot signed off from blogging:

This Is My Last Posting Posted by GayPatriot at 04:49 PM - March 25, 2005
For personal and professional reasons that I am unable to fully discuss, I have to stop blogging as GayPatriot effective immediately. This has been a great experience for me and I have learned a lot. And I have met a lot of good people along the way (if only through email). As of this moment, I am no longer affiliated with this blog and I turn over all control to GayPatriotWest who will keep the fires going. Thank you for letting me come into your homes since last September. It has been an honor.

filed under: Blogs

Posted by lloydletta at 08:06 PM |

Gay Patriot Covers Gannon

February 09, 2005

Gay Patriot gets new digs..... architected by the talented Christian Grantham.

Here....

He may be the first conservative blogger to comment on the Jeff Gannon situation.

He also comments:

Let me make a final observations. The liberal blogs appear to be having a field day with this, but are ignoring the Eason Jordan story. It will be interesting to see how the conservative blogs deal with the Gannon issue.... if it develops as the liberal blogs seem to be suggesting.
One downside to the blogosphere seems to be further polarizing of news, facts, and in turn our political discourse. That's too bad.

You are so right Gay Patriot. And welcome to your new digs - they look much better than the old digs.

filed under: Blogs

Posted by lloydletta at 06:35 PM |

Bleating from the "Gay Patriot"

October 16, 2004

Here and here. What's got his undies in a bunch is this Washington Blade Editorial, praising Log Cabin Republicans for being an organization with principles.

He's also pushing the Karl Rove inspired Cheney family line about Mary Cheney.... This is from his comments:

I do not think it is tasteless to bring up Mary Cheney. Using gay people like you and I as political pawns to mobilize your base, as the Bush administration has done, affects us personally. I think that by bringing up Mary Cheney Kerry has simply personalized the debate and exposed the Bush/Cheney hypocrisy. Bush and Cheney don't give a shit about gay marriage either way, it's just a convenient issue that mobilizes the religious right in middle america who have never met a gay person in their life and are therefore terrified of them. No one in their administration actually believed for a second that that insane amendment would pass. They simply wanted the publicity to drum up support from their base.

Exactly. The lasting damage is being done at the state level. And way too much gay money is going to the Kerry/Edwards sinkhole, rather than to fighting those amendments.

filed under: Blogs

Posted by lloydletta at 03:15 PM |

NY Times on Blogs

September 26, 2004

The New York Times has an excellent piece on Blogs....

Andrew Sullivan sniffs:

ABOUT THAT NYT PIECE: I thought it was fun enough, but, sadly, Matt Klam doesn't seem to grasp how deeply revolutionary the new medium is beginning to be. It was also skewed toward the leftward part of the blogosphere - and it failed to distinguish adequately enough, I thought, between blogs that are journalistic and those that are blatantly activist. It's not that DailyKos or FreeRepublic are "nastier"; it's that they're unabashedly partisan, help organize politics as well as comment on it. But, hey, there's plenty of space for all kinds of blogs; and no piece can cover it all. The good news is that I think we may have reached a blogging tipping point in terms of public awareness. This piece helps advance that. And it was a jolly read.

Perhaps this is what got Andrew's undies in a bunch:

But just as Fox News has been creaming CNN, the traffic on Kaus's and Sullivan's sites has flat-lined recently, while Atrios's and Moulitsas's are booming. Left-wing politics are thriving on blogs the way Rush Limbaugh has dominated talk radio, and in the last six months, the angrier, nastier partisan blogs have been growing the fastest. Daily Kos has tripled in traffic since June. Josh Marshall's site has quadrupled in the last year. It's almost as though, in a time of great national discord, you don't want to know both sides of an issue. The once-soothing voice of the nonideological press has become, to many readers, a secondary concern, a luxury, even something suspect. It's hard to listen to a calm and rational debate when the building is burning and your pants are smoking.

filed under: Blogs

Posted by lloydletta at 04:09 PM |

Blogs Effect on Politics

September 19, 2004

Andrew Sullivan has an excellent piece on the effect of new media - including blogs on politics and traditional media here.

Money quote:

The downside, of course, is that sleaze is far more easily parlayed and smears more effectively deployed. But the benefit is that the new system is also porous. The competition between new and old media can help both get stories right; media bias is more openly admitted so that the reader or viewer can make up his or her own mind; new information emerges that might never have been known before. It's not perfect and it can lead to some ugly moments (besmirching someone's war-medals or possibly faking documents). But it's real and dynamic and open. It's democratic. And if you're interested in politics, it keeps you looking forward to opening your laptop each morning.

filed under: Blogs

Posted by lloydletta at 07:30 PM |